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Mensagempor raxx7 » quinta jan 22, 2004 12:29 pm

Humanure Escreveu:muito obrigado.

pelo o que já li, não há a minima duvida que wicca é uma religião.


E oficialmente reconhecida como tal nalguns países, creio eu.

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Mensagempor Bronze [RIP] » quinta jan 22, 2004 12:44 pm

http://www.esquilo.com/freira.html


gandas malucos :lol:

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Mensagempor raxx7 » quinta jan 22, 2004 2:22 pm

AHAHA, seu TARADO!! :)

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Mensagempor Amphion » quinta jan 22, 2004 3:49 pm

Eu recomendo http://www.wicca.com.

Quanto a autores a minha recomendação total vai para Scott Cunningham que tem vários livros muito completos sobre o assunto.´

É claro que existem muitos outros bons sites e bons autores sobre o assunto. Boas pesquisas! :wink:

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Mensagempor Mind Booster Noori » terça mar 09, 2004 4:34 am

Não, Wicca não é uma religião...

Contrary to what those who choose to persecute or lie about us wish to believe, Wicca is a very peaceful, harmonious and balanced way of thinking and life which promotes oneness with the divine and all which exists.

Wicca is a deep appreciation and awe in watching the sunrise or sunset, the forest in the light of a glowing moon, a meadow enchanted by the first light of day. It is the morning dew on the petals of a beautiful flower, the gentle caress of a warm summer breeze upon your skin, or the warmth of the summer sun on your face. Wicca is the fall of colorful autumn leaves, and the softness of winter snow. It is light, and shadow and all that lies in between. It is the song of the birds and other creatures of the wild. It is being in the presence of Mother Earths nature and being humbled in reverence. When we are in the temple of the Lord and Lady, we are not prone to the arrogance of human technology as they touch our souls. To be a Witch is to be a healer, a teacher, a seeker, a giver, and a protector of all things. If this path is yours, may you walk it with honor, light and integrity.

Wicca is a belief system and way of life based upon the reconstruction of pre-Christian traditions originating in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. While much of the information of how our ancestors lived, worshiped and believed has been lost due to the efforts of the medieval church to wipe our existence from history, we try to reconstruct those beliefs to the best of our ability with the information that is available.

With recent archaeological discoveries, we now have basis to believe that the origins of our belief system can be traced even further back to the Paleolithic peoples who worshipped a Hunter God and a Fertility Goddess. With the discovery of these cave paintings which have been dated to be around 30,000 years old depicting a man with the head of a stag, and a pregnant woman standing in a circle with eleven other people, it can reasonably be assumed that Witchcraft is the oldest religion known in the world toady. These archetypes are clearly recognized by Wiccan as our view of the Goddess and God aspect of the supreme creative force and predate Christianity by roughly 28,000 years making it a mere toddler in the spectrum of time as we know it. Sorry guy's, carbon dating is a little hard to dispute no matter how bad you want to try...

Witchcraft in ancient history was known as "The Craft of the Wise" because those who followed the path were healers, were in tune with the forces of nature, had a knowledge of Herbs and medicines, gave council and were valuable parts of the village and community as Shamanic leaders. They understood that mankind is not superior to nature, the earth and its creatures but instead we are simply one of the many parts, both seen and unseen that combine to make the whole. As Chief Seattle said; "We do not own the earth, we are part of it." These wise people understood that what we take or use, we must return in kind to maintain balance and equilibrium. Clearly, modern man with all his applied learning and technology has forgotten this. Subsequently, we currently face ecological disaster and eventual extinction because of our hunger for power and a few pieces of gold.

For the past several hundred years, the image of the Witch has been mistakenly associated with evil, heathenism, and unrighteousness. In my humble opinion, these misconceptions have their origin in a couple of different places.

To begin, the medieval church of the 15th through 18th centuries created these myths to convert the followers of the old nature based religions to the churches way of thinking. By making the Witch into a diabolical character and turning the old religious deities into devils and demons, the missionaries were able to attach fear to these beliefs which aided in the conversion process. Secondly, as medical science began to surface, the men who were engaged in these initial studies had a very poor understanding of female physiology, especially in the area of a women's monthly cycles. The unknowns in this area played very well with the early churches agenda lending credence to the Witch Hunters claims and authority. The fledgling medical professions also stood to benefit greatly from this because it took the power of the women healers away giving it to the male physicians transferring the respect and power to them.

Unfortunately these misinformed fears and superstitions have carried forward through the centuries and remain to this day. This is why many who follow these nature oriented beliefs have adopted the name of Wicca over its true name of Witchcraft to escape the persecution, harassment and misinformation associated with the name of Witchcraft and Witch not to mention the bad publicity the press and Hollywood has given us simply to generate a profit.

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Mensagempor Rick » terça mar 09, 2004 9:07 am

A Wicca foi criada pelo Gerald Gardner no princípio do século XX a partir de muitas fontes, desde a feitiçaria medieval ao mesodruidismo (por influência do Ross Nichols) passando pelas sociedades herméticas e qabalísticas da altura. Hoje em dia há uma infinidade de livros sobre o assunto, a maior parte dos quais são muito maus.

Para quem se interessar recomendo os livros do Raymond Buckland. Mas não sou um Wiccan e portanto nunca li um grande número de autores, apesar de me achar minimamente bem informado sobre o assunto.

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Mensagempor RuySan » segunda abr 12, 2004 9:59 pm

eu sinceramente acho que a ideia de criar uma religião nos dias que correm é como tentar convencer as pessoas que 2+2 não são 4.
Qual é o objectivo?? Será que a maior parte de nós renunciou a uma religião com 2000 mil anos para acreditarmos num maluco qq que inventou uma religiao à um século?
Se tivesse realmente de acreditar em alguma religião (para quê???) de certeza que não era num destes cultos new-age. Acho que esta gente anda a fantasiar demasiado....


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