Christofer Johnsson "despede" restantes membros de Therion!!

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Christofer Johnsson "despede" restantes membros de Therion!!

Mensagempor Onesolo » sexta abr 18, 2008 9:37 am

Boas,

Segundo o Blabbermouth, Christofer Johnsson, membro fundador e principal dos Therion decidiu "separar-se" dos 4 restantes membros permanentes da banda para que os antigos membros possam seguir os seus projectos musicais. Os Therion vão continuar a mesma e espera-se o anuncio de novos membros em breve...

Fonte: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... emID=95157

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Mensagempor Karamazov [RIP 2012/07/27] » sexta abr 18, 2008 12:08 pm

Talvez agora lhe dê na cabeça para seguir como uma one-man-trve-black-metal-band, agora que está sozinho. Mas sim, realmente foi ele que teve colhões de ferro, após "the band have had some discussions and it is clear that we have different goals and visions for the future" e fez o que teria que ser feito 8)

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Re: Christofer Johnsson "despede" restantes membros de Therion!!

Mensagempor warrior of wisdom » sexta abr 18, 2008 3:38 pm

Não é uma notícia muito surpreendente pois o Sr. Johnsson sempre convidou os mais diversos músicos para colaborarem consigo. O que interessa é que ele continue com este projecto magnifico que se chama Therion. É claro que ter gente da qualidade do Kristian Niemann é uma mais valia pois ele é um excelente guitarrista. De certeza que o Chris encontrará substitutos à altura. No entanto, não deixa de ser uma atitude corajosa.
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Re: Christofer Johnsson "despede" restantes membros de Therion!!

Mensagempor haemonculus » sexta abr 18, 2008 4:59 pm

é pena... espero que consiga arranjar um "plantel" à altura deste e que depois passem por portugal... :redneck:

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Mensagempor warrior of wisdom » sexta abr 18, 2008 6:46 pm

Comentário de Kristian Niemann na sua página no myspace:

"Well, after nine years with the band it..s just time to do something different. Nothing to be upset about really, Christofer will continue with Therion of course and will bring some fresh new blood into the band. Myself, Im really looking forward to see where the band is going next. I ll be first in line to buy the new CD!

Like we said there are no hard feelings whatsoever, it is just time to move on.

/kristian"

Comentário de Petter Karlsson também na sua página no myspace:

"2008-04-18
Therion is now history

Last week I had a band meeting with my fellows in Therion.
We have now decided to go separate ways.
Christofer Johnsson will continue with Therion and Me, Johan and Kristian Niemann will perform our music in other bands and projects.

I’m sure that this is the best decision, when it’s clear that we have different goals and visions for the future.
I have a lot of interesting projects coming up, and I will definitly do something together with Kristian and Johan.

To all Therion fans
Thanks for your unbelievable support. I hope I’ll see you in the future.
Cheers,
Petter "
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Mensagempor X-FrEaK » sexta abr 18, 2008 7:29 pm

Se o Christopher continua com os Therion, esta noticia nao aquece nem arrefece

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Re: Christofer Johnsson "despede" restantes membros de Therion!!

Mensagempor Cyberquake » sexta abr 18, 2008 7:33 pm

A boa notícia no meio disto, é que agora Demonoid vai rular. :jam:

Quanto a Therion... bem, no fim de contas sempre foi o Christopher que mandava naquilo, portanto... de certeza que irá arranjar óptimos substitutos.

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Mensagempor Grimner » sexta abr 18, 2008 10:19 pm

o unico comentário que me merece é "de novo?"
Eu já vi o raxx num papo seco
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Mensagempor The Einherjar » sexta abr 18, 2008 10:26 pm

Chuck Schuldiner Syndrome.

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Mensagempor Wisdoom » domingo abr 20, 2008 10:05 pm

Agora que sao menos membros talvez caibam num qualquer bar em PT. :lol:

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Mensagempor X-FrEaK » domingo abr 20, 2008 10:09 pm

Ele Escreveu:Agora que sao menos membros talvez caibam num qualquer bar em PT. :lol:


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Mensagempor warrior of wisdom » segunda abr 21, 2008 12:40 am

Comunicado do Christofer na página oficial:

2008-04-18 It may seem hard for many to grasp how this could happen. As for my self, if you would have asked me a year ago, I'd say we had the ultimate line-up and that this would be the one for a long, long time to come, maybe for ever. But life change and so does people, including my self. And for this case most importantly, so does Therion. Something you fans seldomly or never have reason to reflect on is HOW we do things and not only how the final result appears on stage or sounds to your ears. Many bands may have internal discussions on how the sound is gonna be, but I think one of the biggest issues for Therion is HOW we do things when we record and tour. How the next album will sound musically is not necessarily the biggest issue when our visions took different directions, even though I think I can say at least one person didn't feel entierly comfortable also with the musical direction the way I interpreted his signals.

To make one thing clear before there's a lot of speculations. Absolutely no one was fired. I noticed a lack of enthusiasm and it became obvious that we had different views on how to do certain things. The worst thing that can happen to Therion is to loose the dynamic and become just a "job" for the people involved, so I asked them straight out to consider their future with Therion anno 2009 and onwards. They had a meeting and came to the conclusion that it wouldn't feel honest towards me, them selves or the fans to make another round with yet and album and World Tour. It's not a small project to be involved with. I estimate one year of recording and one year of touring. So it's not something small one signs up to and I want to have peple that are 100% motivated and not just do it for the sake of making a buck and do it in lack of something they would rather do musically. The spark and the hunger is definatly gone for this line-up. Hats off to the guys for being so true to the art and not pretending and fooling them selves and others just for the sake of "fame and money" (not that you get disgustingly rich from playing in Therion, but at least it's decent money and you get to see the world and shouting fans).

As for the future of Therion, there is absolutely nothing to be alarmed of. Therion has always been more of a musical organism rather than a regular band. How many bands do you know of that don't have a permanent singer in the band for a start? The majority of our fan base that was born with the release of Theli in 1996
is still the base of today. They have been able to follow a musical journey incomparable to any other band and with a variety of members being the performers. Be sure of that it will sound different on the next album, but at the same time, be also assured of that if there would have been an internet forum like this back in 1996-97, then you would have had an equal shock; "What, no Piotr? Dan Swanö is not gonna sing on the next album?? So sad that Jonas won't continue! ´" etc. You are all hooking up to the musical current of Therion at different stages and therefore you will always have nostalgia to different records, tours line-ups etc. It's natural.

My philosophy regarding members has always been that "everybody is very important, but no one is irreplacable". It is not something easy to replace three so increadibly talanted musicians at the same time as is the case now, but at least for the festival in September, it's no problem at all, so no need to feel alarmed of that. Finding gifted instrumentalists has never been a problem for a successful band. The true challenge lies within finding equally (or better) musicians with a musical personality and original style, as most of those are already engaged in successful bands already. But on the other hand, none of the Niemanns nor Petter had ever recorded an album, played a show outside Sweden or had any considerable musical success at all (with the exception of Johan, who had a moderate success in the proggressive undergound with the cool band Minds Eye). Yet they were all extremely talanted and strong personality musicians, excellent song writers and very dedicated to the art. It may appear as a mystery that they were not already world famous before they joined Therion. But that's how the world is. And it also shows that there's probably plenty of other diamonds hiding, waiting to be digged out and allowed to shine upon the world. There's also many excellent musicians that used to be successful with other bands in the passed, but didn't manage to continue a career, even though they are very talanted. Forgotten jewels that could shine even brighter than in he old days if given the opportunity.

For sure I will miss all three of them a lot in the future on tour. It will especially be strange to play without the Niemanns that has been in the band for 8 years, longer than any other members. But I'm glad we parted before the flame was totally burned out. I hope their time with Therion have given them (and of course Petter) the experience, contacts and platform they need to successfully continue their careers and create cool music. I'm very curious of what they will be putting out. They are all very interesting song writers and for sure the next Demonoid album will kick some serius ass. Johan also have something interesting of his own that I'm very curious to hear! And Petter will for sure have his hands full with probably more than one project with cool progressive stuff. I'm really looking forward to hear all of it. I also hope I will get the chance to see Demonoid live, that would be cool. =)

/ Christofer



PS

I've seen some reaction like "now I'm never gonna see them live" refering to these guys not gonna play with Therion next time around. Well, that's the thing with Therion, you can NEVER take anything for granted. If you want to be sure to see what we have to offer at the moment and if you live in a country we play in - go to the show or loose the chance (or in best case watch the DVD some year later if there is one). We're not like Motorhead and that kind of bands that will be back doing more or less the same thing every year. Therion live is an art form comparable to a flower. You can only watch it and smell it in real life. A DVD will give you a clue of the beauty of it, but you'll never be able to smell it.
So Therion is a band that needs to be rediscovered for each tour, just like each new album is a challange to the perceptio of what is Therion and what is not (refering to the discussion that always massively occour with each new release).
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Mensagempor Joe » sexta jun 06, 2008 3:40 pm

Ai Cristovão... esse texto está tão grande... :|
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Mensagempor Karamazov [RIP 2012/07/27] » sexta jun 06, 2008 3:51 pm

TLDR

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Mensagempor OrDoS » domingo jun 08, 2008 10:22 am

Grande Christopher! :metal:
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