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O próximo álbum

Ao nível do trabalho anterior deles!!!
19
8%
Surpreendentemente bom.
30
12%
Melhor que o St. Anger há de ser...
81
33%
Outro Load.
13
5%
Depois do St. Anger não há luz no fundo do tunel
37
15%
Pra mim cortaram o cabelo morreram.
66
27%
 
Total de votos: 246

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Le Point Noir
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Mensagempor Le Point Noir » terça out 02, 2007 5:44 pm

São uma banda que teve o seu pico de forma há quase 20 anos, por isso na melhor das hipotéses conseguirão um disco razoável, algo que é o maximo que se pode pedir.
Por acaso, acho que os Maiden quebraram esta regra com o AMOLAD, mas duvido que os Metallica consigam..
Oui oui la baguette

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Mensagempor Shore » terça out 02, 2007 5:49 pm

Soul_of_Darkness Escreveu:
Vooder Escreveu:OHHHHH NÃÃÃÃÃÃOOOOOO, outro tópico sobre os Metallica!!!!!!!!!!!


Um dia destes já nem se pode abrir tópicos...


EU se fosse ati abria uma votação sobre isso.

"Posso ou não posso criar tópicos sobre tudo o que me apetece?"
Imagem

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Thrasher
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Mensagempor Thrasher » terça out 02, 2007 5:51 pm

Shore Escreveu:
Soul_of_Darkness Escreveu:
Vooder Escreveu:OHHHHH NÃÃÃÃÃÃOOOOOO, outro tópico sobre os Metallica!!!!!!!!!!!


Um dia destes já nem se pode abrir tópicos...


EU se fosse ati abria uma votação sobre isso.

"Posso ou não posso criar tópicos sobre tudo o que me apetece?"


Eu abria...

Surpreendentemente bom!

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Mensagempor Cyberquake » terça out 02, 2007 6:02 pm

Vai ser um álbum de hard-rock, nas veias Load e Re-Load.

É óbvio que há sempre fé que eles façam algo como há 20 anos atrás, eles têm capacidade para o fazer, mas agora se o querem fazer, isso já vai uma longa distância.

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Mensagempor Garm » terça out 02, 2007 6:10 pm

Cortaram o cabelo e morreram para mim há 15 anos....no sentido figurado...
O que se espera do deste albúm??Eu para ficar surpreendido (positivamente) teria que pôr as minhas expectativas bastante baixas. Apesar de que ouvi na rádio em Agosto na antena 2 que iriam fazer um albúm "com velocidades alucinantes". :arrow: ....mas duvido muito

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Mensagempor jaymz » terça out 02, 2007 6:12 pm

Mas isso das velocidades alucinantes confirma-se.

O baterista dos Velvet Revolver disse isso numa entrevista, acho que não tem qualquer razão para mentir.

Matt Sorum Escreveu:Lars (Ulrich) is a good friend of mine. He played me the demos from San Francisco, and I turned and looked at him and I said, 'Master that shit and put it out.' It's ridiculous. The demos were sick. Eight-minute songs, all these tempo changes, crazy fast. It's like, 'Dude, don't get slower when you get older, but don't get faster!? How are you gonna play this live?' And then me and Lars were out partying all night, and he had to go in the studio the next day and do this stupid like nine- or ten-minute song, and I was laughing at him — because he played me the demo of it, and it was [sings really fast drum part], so fast. I called him, and said, 'Dude, how are you feeling?' He was like, 'Dude, I'm hurting.' They're cutting everything to tape, no fuckin' ProTools — live, no clicks. Bitchin'. I dig it. I'm really excited for them."

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Mensagempor Cyberquake » terça out 02, 2007 6:17 pm

Hmm, o Lars não me pareceu em grande forma assim, em Lisboa. Mas a ver vamos.

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Mensagempor Garm » terça out 02, 2007 6:18 pm

Matt Sorum Escreveu:.... It's like, 'Dude,.... I called him, and said, 'Dude, how are you feeling?' He was like, 'Dude, I'm hurting....


:lol: LOL

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Mensagempor jaymz » terça out 02, 2007 6:25 pm

Cyberquake Escreveu:Hmm, o Lars não me pareceu em grande forma assim, em Lisboa. Mas a ver vamos.


Pareceu-me bem, pareceu-me bem... Ele nunca foi propriamente o baterista mais rápido do mundo LOL

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Mensagempor Thrasher » terça out 02, 2007 6:28 pm

O Trujilo numa entrevista na Suécia durante a tour deste ano:

Q: How is the new album going to sound?

A: The attitude of the new material is totally old school. Which has alot to do with us playing "MOP" live last year.
One thing that Rick Rubin said to Lars and James was; "When you are creating the songs, try and think about what was going throu your heads at the time when you made "MOP". Try and have the same attitude in the creative process."

Q: But how does it sound?

A: The songs are not going to be short. Your not going to hear any 4 min songs on this one. There is alot going on with diffrent harmonies and layers. Its hard for us who are up in it all creating to have a good perspective on it, but then you get some one from the outside like Scott Ian from Anthrax, who was waiting outside for me and Kirk. He heard us work on one of the new songs and said: "Wow, what a riff!!!!! Is it going to be on the new album?", he was clearly excited.

Q: So, is that riff going to be on the new album?

A: I actually dont remember (laughs), I cant remember that riff, but the song on the other hand. There are 14 songs, and we are not going to put so many on the record, so we dont know yet. There are some songs which we know with absolute certainty will make the album. There's alot of great riffs and cool grove to it, sometimes its very dynamic, I think this will be a really special album. We are still in a way writing these songs, on this tour James just came up with a fantastic riff, and it just has to make the new album, so in that sence the songs are still changing. And I got all these ideas on what I want to do with the bass. I think there is a creative magic going on in the group for this effort.

Q: Many people want to know if its gonna old "glories" thrash metal on the new record.

A: Yes! There are many diffrent musical inputs, and one of them is thrash. The dynamic elements Metallica used in the 80's are also a factor you will see on this record. There is also something that I think is a renewal of the heavyness, which is this Slayer-kind powergroove with a Metallica signature. The material is really heavy, even at the "groovie" parts, and alot of really strong melodies. The lyrics are also cool, I wasnt there under the recording of St.Anger, but there the Lyrics were made by everyone, this time its 100% James Hetfield. So the songs are more his then they were the last time, which is a good thing.



- Then there is something about Bob Rock getting fired and why they are now working with Rubin, and it goes on to.......
Q: And now there is "pre-Bob rock" philosophy.

A: Rick said this; James, why did you have a higher range on your singing voice before? Is it something you still can do? Can you still sing this song in this way?
I think that is fantastic, and I know alot of people will be surprised when they hear James on the new record. When songs are sung in an octave lower its easier for James, the voice hasnt the same agression and sounds more bluesy. Its good for James to get these kinds of suggestions, it forces him out from comfortable zone where he has been the past years, and this gives him a challenge. You can hear the old-school feeling in his voice now, just as back in the day.

Q: Many fans think that James voice isnt good enough these days, that it isnt nearly as good as it was before, is this something you guys discuss within the band?

A: Yes, and there are may reasons for James voice changing. The voice changes with age, but James.... Well, ok the voice isnt the same, when you are young you scream alot and have this attitude, the same attitude is more so in these new songs then it has been for in 20 years. These are things that Rick Rubin sees and wants us to work with, which has alot to do with the result of this album.

Oki, here goes "Part 2" :P

It start with Robert talking;

A: Another thing which people dont usually think about is the tuning. "Do you drop down a half step?", this dosent tell you much if you dont play an instrument. The vocals have a range and James is now using much of his register which he hasnt sung in for a long time. I personaly, and the rest of the band think that this is more in the lines of the "Old school" Metallica then that of the latest stuff. The vocals have a big part in the change/direction the music is going.
Now days many bands tune down to D, like Korn did, or to tune the E-string down to A. Early Metallica was never about this, it was about what I call A440, which is the standardtuning.

Q: "Invisible Kid" on St.Anger was really down-tuned.

A: Yeah, really. Rick thou not a fan of down-tuning. I dont have problem with it, Slayer down-tune in some song and they still sound brutal.



Then the interviewer talks about the two new songs, which he said, hade some great riffs; like the FWTB intro and strong riffing in the end, but had alot of boring riffs and parts that didnt go anywhere..... Etc etc. New song played in Bilbao, Rob said they fucked it up, you know the rest of that story.

Q: How was it to join Metallica? Do you think you joined Metallica at a perfect moment? If the new album lives up to its expectations then it will be like "Rubin and Trujillo saved Metallica" cry will replace the "Bob rock ruined Metallica".

A: I dont think it has ever been better to be in Metallica. If it had been 10-15 years ago I'm sure it would have been difficult to get along with Lars and James. The attitude within the band is healty, when I come with suggestions thye listen. Like when I said that it would be cool to play "Dyers Eve" live. What is cool is that when I joined the band they wanted to start playing old stuff, but this attitude didnt "Manifest" itself before the Filmore gig. I always say that the Filmore gig was 100% rehearsel.
We didnt do Dyers Eve this summer, but we have allready gone throu all our Metallica songs and picked some for the next tour, which we know are going to surprise.
(Henri M hoping for Outlaw Torn :P)

Q: Under the Live Earth show you guys played bass with Spinal Tap, you pulled a bass solo and James said "Why dont you do that with our stuff!?". Can we count on you giving your mark in the music like Cliff Burton did with Orion, Anasteshia, FWTB and like Jason with MyFriendOfMissery?

A: I dont know...... Infectious Grooves was a cool experiment where all the music was written out from the bass. There will be moments like that, but the songs are still being "builded", so its not sure yet. As we play we come up with new stuff all the time, "WHOOOW that was cool, put that in there" and so on. Lars comes up with new fresh beats that change the attiude of the song and the arrangments. We dont know yet how the album will come out, there can be more bass there can be less.

Q: A couple of months ago you said that Kirk was away alot cuz of his son. How has this affected the dynamics of the work? You also talked about the working spirit between James and Lars..

A: Everyone who has been on the inside would describe it in the way I am going to right now: You can take a Robert Trujillo grove, a Jason Newstead bass line, or a Kirk Hammet riff - And I can promise you Kirk is contributing some of the worlds best riffs on this one - but when it comes down to it, there has been this amazing collaboration between James and Lars, to witness how those two guys are just really focused on making music, they brainstorm back and forth which creates a special energy. Its really inspirational to see how they work, how they pick everything appart and analyse the smallest details. From drum beats to changes in the chords to bridges and so on. Lars is really fantastic at arranging songs. Just the other day a friend asked me what Lars does besides shoot of his big mouth (laughs).

Q: What does he contribute specifically?

A: We all got riffs that we present. In the hands of James, who has such a powerfull right arm and playes everything with such an attitude and confidence, makes a good riff into a great riff. James is the type of musician who can take something to the next level without effort. Lars strenght is that he as a drummer likes to try out new stuff, he is not someone who is content with a normal drumkit. He will force himself, sometimes he takes water over his head. It can be a drumkit that takes him three hours to sett up, he pushes himself more than most drummers.
James played some drums, so he has a real good ear when it comes to beats, that makes it posible for them to build up ideas from the drummers point of view. Lars is the one who brings the progressive element; "Lets take a beat away from here, make this one heavyer and that one faster", he likes to do that, especially on this record.

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Mensagempor The Einherjar » terça out 02, 2007 6:41 pm

KonigLowe Escreveu:Ja não tenho paciência para os Metallica!

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Mensagempor Inmist » terça out 02, 2007 6:41 pm

Ao nível do trabalho anterior deles!!! :roll:

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Mensagempor DimeSlime » terça out 02, 2007 7:03 pm

KonigLowe Escreveu:Ja não tenho paciência para os Metallica!


... e mesmo assim respondes aos tópicos acerca da banda. cool :roll:

Será mais um albúm de Metallica. Bom ou menos bom, cá estarei para ouvir.
We believe, so we're misled
We assume, so we're played
We confide, so we're deceived
We trust, so we're betrayed.

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Mensagempor Boriu » terça out 02, 2007 7:47 pm

Tou com fé que o próximo album vai ser um album bastante razoavel...Se for uma cagada continuarei aki para apoia los mas ja é tempo de um album decente pk se não mais vale acabarem com o lancamento de cds e so darem concertos!

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Mensagempor nazgul » terça out 02, 2007 7:54 pm

The Einherjar Escreveu:
KonigLowe Escreveu:Ja não tenho paciência para os Metallica!


Esta opção sim, deveria entrar na votação... :roll:
Desde o Black álbum que andam a prometer... as desilusões já foram mtas... e depois há sempre esta cena: o próximo àlbum é que é, está diferente de tudo blá blá blá, nos concertos tocam apenas 2/3 músicas do novo álbum (porque as outras...) e passado 2 anos já não as tocam porque, enfim, afinal o álbum não era assim tão bom... mas o próximo é que é!!

Está explicado, pela minha parte, por que motivo já não há pachorra para os Metallica.


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